Final version of the report
of the October meeting in belgrade.
Milos, bosa and betty sent
a first report, I'v sent various remarks and additions to this report, others
did as well and I've been trying now to mix it in a nice way.
I hope it's now all right
with everybody, but as late as we are, I think we can still wait a few days
more for final reactionsbefore to spread it to our various friends that could
get involved around europe.
All the things I or dsm
people had writed as clearly consensed on, have a (C) behind.
Deciding things through
email is a bit uneasy, so as olivier, I and marco had opposite point of views
on the fact to explain or not how many people blocked a decision in a report
(regarding the gender issue in this report), I had to kind of choose myself.
So I decided to keep this addition as the problem seemed important enough to
many people to give explanations (in my opinion). But this particular issue
of explaining consensus block should be discussed again at the next meeting
for future reports, so to escape to post-meetings disagreements.
I hope that this report
will be usefull for everybody preparing the conference or wanting to know more
about it and will be used as a first reference documents for further steps in
the preparation. It's quite bad it's coming so late but I hope it can also help
to remind people what they have committed to do. 5it might be good to have a
page on the website with the various contacts for the various groups and practical
I think as well that we
really need to publicize a lot the next preparation meeting that will happen
in january. (through the call and pga newspaper). Invitation work espacially
with eastern group (for whom founing work for travell cost should be made) will
have to be done as soon as possible, but I think that now, with this report,
the newspaper layouted and the call to come, we should have really soon all
the necessary documents to make good and clear contacts.
The next PGA conference
Preparatory Meeting will be in Belgrade, 10-12. of January 2004. (C)
I hink it might be quite
usefull to put this report on the website as well.
bisous / nicolu
PGA Preparatory Meeting - October
Saturday, October 4, 2003
EuroDusnie, EYFA/ nederlands, LARC, Cardiff Anarchist Network,
Ferme du Hayon/belgium, Indymedia/Nantes/france, Longo Mai/grangeneuve/france,
tanneries/dijon/france, APCM/geneva gyug!, ZMAG, Belgrade Indymedia, AZIN, DSM
(Rebel House, Political Collective, Za Drugaciji Svet, BLOK, SUS)
A. from DSM
A. call for patience,
DSM not very skilled and will need a lot of help to organize the conference
Update on how much DSM did
so far in preparing the conference
- DSM explains that it
still has problems in picking the location. The town it opted for initially
was Kragujevac. The town is in central Serbia and is very representative in
terms of all the problems an impoverished country in transition is suffering
from. There are a lot of strikes by workers who are left without work or have
forgot when was the last time they got paid for what they do. It is also a
university center with, probably, the worst studying conditions in the country.
However, the lack of contacts in the town, as well as a hostile local government
and general lack of accessible facilities will most probably exclude Kragujevac
as the conference site. Also, the local population could be taken aback with
the idea of having up to 1,000 or more foreign activists organizing something
they do not understand.
- The other possible location
is in the north of Serbia. It is a summer resort called Palic (lakeside) and
it is near the town of Subotica, close to the Hungarian border. It is still
uncertain whether the resort will be available in July 2004th, when the conference
is due to take place. The other issue is whether the PGA network can raise
enough money to cover expenses. The advantages of the resort are that it would
be comparably simple to organize the conference in an enclosed area with enough
space for accommodation and venues for events. On the other hand, since one
of the main aims of the conference is its outreach towards the local community
and the media, the resort is not a good location for that purpose.
- What remains for now
are the two big towns/cities – Belgrade and Novi Sad. Both have the
necessary infrastructure for accommodation and venues. They are also the best
locations in terms of communication links and media accessibility.
- The possibility to rent
schools during summer holidays was mentioned a few times.
- the participants
of the conference agreed to choose a place that would not be in the middle
of nowhere and isolated from people. A place where we could meet and make
links with local people and struggles" (C)
- it has also been agreed
that DSM should have an additional 2-3 months to find and announce the exact
location for the conference. (C)
- there was also a proposal
to organize a caravan that could venture in central Serbia and gradually introduce
the idea of a conference taking place in one of the towns in the area. The
caravan would happen in december and people involved with pga and the conference
were invited to take part, the first objective was to present "farewell
to political parties" a book by kolektiv eimigrative art and it was supposed
to be welcomed by people from an autonomous union apparently much active in
kragujevatz. It therefore could be a way to meet people from this union and
struggling workers as well.
- the convenor should have
direct presence or links with local collectives in the town where it chooses
to organize the conference in order to avoid animosity from the local population.
and to be able to profit afterwards on what the conference could bring locally.
- Some collectives and
people involved in pga dynamic should arrive one month before the conference
to help. There was. another wish to have people that could come during one
week or two at different times between now and the conference.
- DSM has two more months
to find a suitable location. (C)
- The discussion continued
towards what were the particular needs and possible solutions in terms of
accommodation and space for the conference. these are a few things agreed.
- it was agreed to use
a combination of solid housing (schools, squats, …) and camp(s). (C)
- we also spoke about
the necessity to find circus tents or big tents to have part of the workshops
and debates outside solid structures. (C)
- we souldn't only focus
on freeplaces but will have to find foundings to be able to rent places if
- it was discussed to
squat a place for the conference (as people have great difficulties to find
autonomous collective places for activities in serbia) but we agreed on not
mixing squatting action time an conference time. So there was either the possibility
to squat a place well in advance or to take advantage of the big number of
people to have a squatting action just after the conference. (C)
- the possibility to have
collectives actions in the day following the conference but clearly separated
from the conference time was also discussed and left open, as well as the
possibility to organize small caravans//travellings or meetings in other locations
than the conference place, after the conference.
- DSM also raised the issue
of the possible number of participants that could end up at the conference.
The issue of whether there should be a limit to the number of participants,
since there might be a problem to accommodate everyone. It was agreed that
the convenors will update the PGA network with info on what kind of infrastructure
for accommodation has been secured and the approximate number of people it
can accommodate (in combination with camping space). The general view was
that there should not be any limits on the number of participants but we agreed
on 500 as a minimal starting point. (C)
The discussion at this point focused
on how the PGA could assist DSM in helping them organize the conference.
- people from the entire
PGA network would be invited to take charge of specific assignments necessary
to organize the conference. (as sound, visas, finances, translation, building,
newspapers.... and whatsoever) (C)
- during the conference,
we'll try to push collective self-management on everything and more or less
keep leiden system of different pool and teams in wich people can get involved
such as translation, facilitation, newspaper, cooking, cleaning welcoming,
infos, computers and media... (C)
- we'll to try to push
a bit more than in leiden the involvment of people in daily practical basic
matters such as cleaning and cooking, washing dishes... (C)
- to have something really
well prepared structures mostly organized before the conference so that people
can easily know how to get involved (C)
- a number of people from
abroad will have to come to the chosen location a week or two (remains to
be seen) earlier than the scheduled start of the conference to help DSM in
- we will announce on
every call for the conference that everybody can come at least one week in
advance to build and prepare the infrastructures of the meeting (C)
- we'll announce that
if people want to build sustainable anticapitalist self-made structures (
such as self-made toilets or showers or energy system they're invited to do
it, but that everybody doesn't have to get involved with the building of these
self-made structures. (C)
- we'll announce that the
camp will also be a kind of open space / laboratory to bring and have workshops
on any sustainable technologies such as windcraft, solar panels and such things.
- we'll have different
kind of times and meetings specifically announced as either workshops, presentations,
working group on a practical project... (C)
- we'll have a meeting
of five days with one day before for arrival, meeting with people, visiting
locals and one extra day in the end to have a collective deconstruction of
the camp and conference structures. (C)
Content of the conference
The discussion then talked
about the issue of content. Some people had a problem with the large number
of workshops that existed at the PGA conference in Leiden. The question was
whether the large number of parallel workshops was a good solution and if people
would not get lost in trying to pick one amongst many available workshops in
the same time slot. The question of whether the number of workshops should be
somehow limited arose. The discussion also touched the topic of the thematic
aspect of the content
- there will not be a
limit to the number of workshops since there is no one who may arbiter which
proposal should be accepted and which not. There will however be attempts
to group similar events into one or a few.(C)
- the groups involved
with the preparation of the conference will try to push some issues first
discussed during this preparation meeting. This will be done by putting a
list of issues that seem important to us on the present report and before
the next meeting, trying to see if we can find people, collectives and a process
to work on it and prepare it before the conference. In this way and because
a beforehand dynamic arose, they will become important issues for the conference(C)
- the next preparation
meetings will therefore set forward these "big issues" and try to
promote them as the most important aspects of the PGA conference in 2004 (C)
Sunday, October 5th, 2003
Ferme du Hayon, EuroDusnie,
tanneries/dijon, EYFA, LARC, Cardiff Anarchist Network, Indymedia Nantes, Longo
Mai, APCM, ZMAG, Belgrade Indymedia, AZIN, DSM (Drustvo za Borbu Protiv Drustva,
Rebel House, Political Collective, Za Drugaciji Svet, BLOK, SUS)
J. from EYFA
After a short summary of
the things agreed on previous day (location, practicalities, duration of the
conference, workshops) the discussion about content was continued.
A few proposals for content
had already been submitted by Sans-Titre network and EuroDusney collective and
some new issues were proposed
it was decided to give
some first contacts of people who want to start to think about one of these
particular issues, work on it and be a contact point. (C) These contacts are
mentionned here when people didn't forget to put their names. Otherwise it may
still be possible and very welcomed to add your names if you didn't do so during
- wars, imperialism,
nationalism and social control
javier indy London : javier(at)spc.org
mark // Cardiff anarchist network : bozavine(at)yahoo.co.uk
- eu enlargment
- critic of industrial
some people involved with sans titre network
- gender issue
bosa / azin: bosa.j(at)yubc.net
nicolu / tanneries : nicolu(at)no-log.org
- western democracy
as a model
- situation in
the balkans - balkans as third world
DSM. what is the email we should give ?
Ivana ? people from dsm? migrative art ? I'm not sure as well
- direct democratic
alternatives to capitalism and self management
apparently eurodusnie, but I'm not sure : what is the email we should give.
nicolu / tanneries : nicolu(at)no-log.org
- economic alternatives
- what's next
as an international movement ?
how can we imagine a global change ?
what's global in local struggle ?
critic of summit hoping.
mark // cardiff anarchist network : bozavine(at)yahoo.co.uk
olivier / apcm : elviejo(at)greenmail.ch
- going out of
the activist ghetto
sophie / ferme du haillon : tamagotchis(at)yahoo.fr
- pga in eastern
- it was agreed that
some specific emphasis should be placed on Balkans (C)
- the question of content
is not definite, nor closed, and the discussion on this topic will continue
on PGA process list. (agreed)
a working group that will try to help facilitate coordination for the programm
and workshops will be formed. (C)
Note: at the end of the meeting two persons from DSM volunteered for this
group. They can be contacted at bosa.j(at)yubc.net,
- - many proposals were
made to start debates and collective work on these issues before the conference
and during: questionnaries, finding questions or little text to present
the different issues - having a reader where various collectives write a
provocative text on different issues - having special evening events on
some issues during the conference... In the end nothing was clearly agreed
on this time.
- - at least, people
will be invited to send texts or questionnaries or preparatory plans on
each of this issues be fore the next meeting so that they can be clearer
and rediscussed during the next preparatory meeting.
The question of communication
before conference, workshops proposal and spreading information about conference
- for workshops there
will be an interactive application form on web. EuroDusney collective and
DSM will work on this.
Contact: jespe006(at)planet.nl, and tnosugar(at)net.yu
- applying for conference
will not be limited for »computer users« only. Beside web form
there should be a postal address as well (C)
- PGA presentation newsletter
should be spread before the conference (C)
- other pga newsletter
should be edited regularly before the conference (C) but as far as I remember,
the aim and content weren't really clear and it wasn't much discussed
- already existing PGA
process list will be used for discussing content. (C)
Gender issue proposals for the conference
During the pga winter meeting
in dijon in march 2003, it was collectively decided (by a group of thirty people
involved with pga, people from various european countries and collectives) to
give concrete proposals about gender issue for the next conference.. These proposals
were linked partly with reports of sexual harassment during pga linked events,
but moreover because of a feeling that the gender issue was often taken a secondary
issue and discriminated inside pga and anticapitalists movements. Some people,
espacially women, often involved with the network since quite a long time, felt
more than fed up about it and wanted to find practical ways to push a bit more
the gender issue both inside anti-capitalist and anti-authoritarian movement
and in society in general. These proposals were agreed by everybody at the winter
meeting, a gender working group was started. The reason why these proposals
were specifically rediscussed at this preparation meeting was to make sure that
the pga conference conference preparation group would also agree with it, in
order to know on what the gender working could concretely start to work on,
and on wich basis it could make contacts with other groups struggling on gender
- It was agreed to make
a flyer which should be spread before the conference. Flyer should be a sort
of warning on sexist attitudes, sexual abuses and harassment and ways to prevent
it during the conference. It was agreed that the flyer would be included in
a PGA practical guide that would be given to everybody at the conference.
- the proposal of specifically
inviting feminist and anti-patriarchy collectives to participate and give
workshops during the conference was also agreed on, as well as the fact to
start an open questionnary on gender/anti-patriarchy struggles inside the
- some people also thougt
that the proposals of the winter meeting were just about patriarchy inside
the movement. It was explained that it wasn't, and agreed to make it clearer.
- It was proposed to make
available a »men only« and »women only« space, where
women and men could meet for specific discussions, and also for women as a
place to feel safe in a case of sexist/sexual aggression. It was proposed
as a tool of struggling against patriarchy and gender norms seen as usefull
and quite usual for various people. By some participants this was seen as
sort of segregation. Also, the question on »defining« women and
men was raised (but left unanswered). The proposal was blocked.
Next proposition was that
during the conference one whole day should be about gender issues (Gender day)
in general, not only inside the movement. By some participants this was also
not seen as a priority. (blocked as well)
Comment about the block:
- in a group of twenty to thirty
people, two people chose to block the "men" only and "women"
only spaces, and the same people blocked as well the day about gender.
- On the other hand, various people
expressed they felt shocked that such initiatives and proposals were blocked
in the framework of pga and expressed their will and need to have sent on
the process list some reactions and texts about gender issues in general,
but also specifically on the usefullness of women-only or men-only spaces
as tools to struggle against patriarchy and gender norms.
- Some people expressed at the time,
that they wanted these feelings to appear on the report.
- This part of the discussion brought
nevertheless strong tensions that will have to be overcome by one way or another.
It was said that everybody should feel encouraged to give public feedback
about this discussion.
- But it must also be said that
the whole issue and reasons to refuse the proposal were discussed again two
days later with one of the people who blocked it.
- Everybody should therefore also
give a look at the gender group meeting report (still to come) to get more
- There will be also a work to give
more details and explanations about the various proposals.
- (bosa/azin and nicolu/tanneries
will take care to initiate that)
- A meeting to work specifically
on gender issue was announced This group will meet after the preparatory meeting.
(as said before, the gender working group was already formed during the wintermeeting
and not this time)
In conclusion A debate is open till
the next meeting where these proposals wille be rediscussed (C)
October 6, 2003
Two meetings were held on
this day. On the first (»unofficial«) one, small group of people
was present. Things that were discussed: Infrastructure.
All agreements, discussions,
questions...were presented at the »big« meeting.
CAN, LARC, A SEED, EuroDusnie, EYFA, AZIN, DSM (Political Collective, Rebel
House, Za Drugaciji Svet, BLOK)
M. from EuroDusnie
- meeting space
- sleeping space
- toilets, showers
- sound system & FM radio station
- transport during the conference
- video screens
- coordination office
- phones, mobiles
- sanitation, washing place
- teams: medical, post
- legal group
- photocopier, printing machines
- containers – for …personal
things, bags… before the camp is built
Ferme du Hayon, EuroDusnie, A SEED, Sans Titre network, EYFA, LARC, Cardiff
Anarchist Network, Indymedia Nantes, Longo Mai, APCM, ZMAG, Belgrade Indymedia,
AZIN, DSM (Rebel House, Political Collective, Za Drugaciji Svet, BLOK, SUS)
M. from EuroDusnie
there are some possibilities
to give workshops about self-made showers and compost toilets. Some people involved
with sans-titre already proposed it and J from eyfa is ok to be a contact on
this part (C)
contact : J from EYFA / javier(at)mail.eyfa.org
we'll try to find
collective kitchens project in Serbia & Montenegro or elsewhere in the region
(Austria, Hungary, Italy, Croatia – Zagreb, Pula; Bosnia & Herzegovina
– Mostar; Bulgaria-Temisoara). Some of these locations will be checked
out by J. from EYFA, and B. from AZIN
- we first try to invite
kitchens from the area and secondly to ask collective kitchens to bring hardware
that can be left to create a new kitchen with local people and thirdly if
it doesn't work to invite already existing collective kitchens as Rampenplan
to do the cooking. (C)
- Vegetarian food will
be organized by the organisers of the conference : we invite only kitchens
who will cook vegetarian but if some kitchen who cook meat come at the conference,
we will not prevent them to do so.
Deadline: 2 months
I. from Political Collective
migrativeart(at)skynet.be , and M. from CAN bozavine(at)yahoo.co.uk
we should be paying
special attention on drainage
contact plumbers and electricians
DSM will take care of this, while looking for the location.
Contacts : x from Eyfa (javier(at)spc.org)
and P from a.seed (pim(at)aseed.antenna.nl) can invite
a group from sofia that have experiences with solar and alternative energies.)
Sound system & radio station
there's a project
to create a radio during the time of the conference
contact : J. from LARC (javier(at)spc.org) will be a
contact person for radio
During the conference
in Leiden, Power Amplification (PA) system was needed for plenary. There should
be 4 smaller and 1 bigger PA.
It’s necessary to organize team for PA. It might be very hard to find
such team in Serbia & Montenegro, and suggestion was to bring team from
Coordination and contact:
T. from BLOK, DSM punkpetarpan(at)yahoo.com
Z. from SUS, DSM zabac_car(at)yahoo.com
a kit of diy simultaneous
translation with small radio transmittors has been experienced
//J from larc (javier(at)spc.org) can bring the kit-
but we need some translators
-. Languages: Serbo-Croat, Russian, English, Spanish, German, French. Previous
experience shows that students sometimes agree to do translation work for free
as a practice. There was the proposal to invite people for sign language.
Coordination: check in all
collectives (someone is needed to do the coordination work)
Transportation during the conference
- there should be
organized transportation from the airport to the place of meeting. It’s
steal not possible to arrange details on this because we are still not sure
about the place of the meeting.
Sleeping and meeting spaces
- Most of the sleeping
should be in camps
- But there should be
also sleeping spaces for people with medical disabilities, and others who
can’t sleep in camps
- closed spaces are needed
for meetings, concerts, video projections...
- Sleeping and meeting
area should be separated, because this way confusion and overcrowding are
avoided (experience from Leiden).
Spaces that are needed:
- at least 5 spaces
for 100 people approximately, during 5 days
- large central space
for food and drink serving. Next to this place should also be an infopoint.
- there should also be
a big gathering space for evening program
Multimedia center :
- computers have already
been brought by eurodusnie (with much troubles at the border)// there's also
a project to have an indymedia conference in the balkans next summer and they
could maybe bring some material after.
equipment (there could also be a tv)
- People are needed to
coordinate it. People from print collective in dijon will be asked if they
want to participate.
créche pool / kid space :
- contact and coordination
:Jean-Phi from Ales / France (lipjo(at)no-log.org)
is ok to coordinate a kid space
other things listed :
- we need a phone line
- an office
- it would be good to use a football
field because it's big and they usually have showers.
- we have to ask people to bring
big tents to have smaller meetings.
- we could try to list people who
would like to sleep at locals people houses and not to camp in case it's in
a city and some people want to welcome conference participants in their houses.
Office for coordination
DSM needs space for
A group who will check out
possible places for office will be made, but some financial help will be necessary
- we need a place/workspace
to coordinate the conference for the dsm and the internationals coming to
- the space in azin could
be used but it's small.
- it's nog going to be
a regular working time office room and it would be better if it can be free
and used all the time.
- there should be possibility
to find some funds to help dsm renting an office
- some ngo's could offer
them a place but people from dsm said they didn't want to have this kind of
collaboration with ngo's
- dsm will take care of
making this office project go further and ask for financial help.
Other agenda points: telephones,
garbage, photocopier, printing, video beam, legal team, medical team...were
not discussed because of lack of time.
for the Conference
- Proposals: last
week of July, first week of August, and last week of August
- Majority of people present
at the meeting thought that the best time for the Conference is the end of
July. One of participants first blocked this proposal, believing that the
conference should be held at the beginning of July (because at that time a
big music festival is held, so he thought that conference should offer some
kind of alternative to this festival).
- At the end, consensus
was achieved, and the last week of July was accepted as the best time for
the conference. It was precised that the conference date will be just after
an anticapitalist festival in mostar and there could be a plan of caravan
from mostar to the conference.
- So, the PGA Conference
will be held from 23-29. of July 2004.
- Arrivals will be on 23.
July, and the 29th of july will be a day of collective deconstruction and
Date for the next Preparatory Meeting,
- proposition of having
an informal meeting/ conference presentation in paris during esf week (12th
to 16 of november) because people involved with pga and many interested collectives
will be there (N/tanneries will try to find a date and space for a preparatory
meeting and make contact with the people who organize alternative events to
esf in paris)
- in the end of february,
there will be a wintermeeting of eyfa where we can have a presentation
It was decided that holding
a next meeting in November was too soon, so this meeting on ESF will be a sort
of informal meeting.
For many things that should be done before the next meeting December is the
deadline, so it was decided that the next meeting would be held in January.
At the beginning of April
will be another one, and in June will hopefully arrive people who will take
part in organizing the Conference.
The next PGA conference Preparatory Meeting will be in Belgrade, 10-12. of January
this meeting should be publicised and appear on both pga newspaper and call
for the conference.
- contact group
- goal of the conference
- documents of past conference
- report of this meeting
for pga_process list was needed.
M.from CAN volunteered for this. Contact: bozavine(at)yahoo.co.uk
Invitation to the conference :
- Groups endorsing the
pga hallmarks will be invited for the conference.
- There was apparently
a discussion to what extent groups participating should totally fit to pga
hallmarks, but I think that nothing was clearly decided on that.
- In leiden, the participation
was not limited, but everyone was informed about PGA principles. Apparently,
the same tactic would be used here.
- The Pga hallmarks should
appear on every call for the conference (C)
- There should be work
to contact groups that have never been involved in any PGA conference or initiative
Call for the Conference and for
the next Preparatory Meeting in January.
Deadline for this call is:
October 21, 2003.
- a call for conference
will be written by dsm soon (C)
- the text will be proposed
on the process list before to be sent widely.(C)
- it will be done as soon
as possible (C)
- the conference contact
group and infopoints will find ways to translate and distribute it as widely
as possible (C)
- we agreed to have pga
principles in the call and date of the next preparatory meeting. (C)
PGA conference contact group :
- a contact group is formed,
which will inform other collectives about the conference and generally spread
tool of information about the conference to infopoints and people.. This contact
group will start with the task to compile informations, distribute and make
available ressources (pga presentation newspaper, call for the conference...),
and to create a list of who has already been contacted... (C)
- the contact work should
be done mostly in a regional and decentralized way (C)
- we have to promote the
involvment of people in the preparation of the meeting and the conference
- we should forward the
call widerly than the pga list - the money is a problem for people to come
and we need to deal with it for the next preparatory meeting. (C)
- there will be regular
communication and report about the contact work through the pga list (C)
Contact group contacts:
- B. from AZIN, DSM bosa.j(at)yubc.net
- A from BLOK, DSM zapata(at)sezampro.yu
- M. from EuroDusnie marco(at)eurodusnie.net
- S. from Ferme du Hayon/
sans titre: tamagotchis(at)yahoo.fr
- N from tanneries : nicolu(at)no-log.org
A first small meeting of
people from the contact group happened in austria a few days after the meeting
to precise tools and objectives. A report will be sent on the process list.
- on the first Preparatory
Meeting occured a discussion about documents/newspapers focused on PGA.
- N. from tanneries wrote
a document about PGA history (and structures), which is not a "pga official"
document but can be used by any infopoints. M from eurodusnie will layout
- the Newspaper should
be translated on as many languages as possible. It should be placed on Internet
as well, so that it could be printed and spread around. (C)
- part of this newspaper
will be Xeroxed/copied by SUS collective
- s : lukovicm(at)yahoo.com
is ok to translate it in serbo-croetian
DSM presentation part is
Contact:J. from LARC
October preparatory meeting
Two reports will be sent to PGA process list (one by M. and B. from DSM, and
the other one by N. from Sans Titre network)
Deadline: October 14, 2003
contacts : three
persons will work on the web site: M. from DSM, S. from EuroDusnie and L. from
Indymedia Nantes (luc(at)no-log.org)
- s/ferme du haillon /
tamagotchis(at)yahoo.fr and N / nicolu(at)no-log.org
have a project of radio broadcast to present pga and DSM
- J:larc is ok to put
it on the web
- raising money for the Conference
can be done through: benefit, left-funds, fund rising training... Every collective
should try to raise some money. Mutual accounts will be opened. (C)
Should money be accepted from anybody?
For the last conference it was not. Still, drawing the line is hard.
of every local group to raise money (C)
- it's up to their judgments
where the money comes from as long as nothing must be asked in return and
as they do no publicity that specify the pga and conference.(C)
- if they ask something
in return or publicity we discuss it during the next preparation meetings
First tasks of the finance group:
- placing the information
about the money (needed) on the web site (C)
- placing the information
about the money collectives can raise (approximately) on the web site (C)
open public accounts
- this will be done by
Z. from SUS, DSM; M. from EuroDusnie, P. from EuroDusnie; L. from Indymedia
Nantes; J. from LARC) (C)
- Eurodusnie want to do
part of the work by asking money to the found who gave them some last year.
- F from DSM wants to
start a group in dsm to do some local found raising and to create a bank account
on the name of dsm (C)
- a mutual bank account
will start in london and be done by J/larc // but they're can be other local
bank accounts (C)
Finance group contacts:
J. from LARC javier(at)spc.org
Z. from SUS, DSM zabac_car(at)yahoo.com
L. from Indymedia Nantes (address is missing) his adress is lucho(at)no-log.org
Discussion about making criteria
about who should get the money
(only people from Eastern
Europe, or some people from Western Europe as well ? what kind of criterias
- we prioritize to give
money to people who dont have any other ways to get the money than that (C)
- People who will receive
money have to come as a group or collective and sent following a group decision.
And it must also be people that want to get involved in the preparation process
and dont take it only as a kind of activist-tourist adventure (C)
- the finance group will
decide following these principles. (C)
- we'll try to improve
co-driving and free places annoucements before the meeting (C)
This issue should
be taken very seriously, since there was already a problem with who is allowed
to enter Serbia & Montenegro. DSM will look into this, and information about
visas will be included in the Invitation letter for the conference.
contact :Apparently monika(at)eurodusnie.nl
from eurodusnie wanted to work on the visa facilitation.(confirmed
On decision making structure
:the points of the decision making process, (e.g. what we have to decide on
in pga conference, how can everybody participate, should there be plenery meetings
or not...) were mentionned as really important a few times, announced on the
agenda but got kind of lost in the process. It should therefore be one big point
of the next preparatory meeting